Strange Attributes of the New Testament “God”
An enquiry into Christian faith beyond mere humanization of God
The Qur’an does testify that the pagans of Mecca used to believe that it was Allah (SWT) who created everything that exists,
If thou ask them, who created them, they will certainly say, Allah:
Yet ironically in the same verse Allah (SWT) imputes them to have gone astray from the truth!
If thou ask them, who created them, they will certainly say, Allah: How then are they deluded away (from the Truth)? (Qur’an 43:87)
The pagans of Mecca even believed that it was Allah (SWT) who governed the universe,
And if indeed thou ask them who it is that sends down rain from the sky, and gives life therewith to the earth after its death, they will certainly reply, “Allah!” Say, “Praise be to Allah!” But most of them understand not. (Qur’an 29:63)
Yet noticeably Allah (SWT) disregards them by stating that they “understand not”. In other words, none of their aforementioned beliefs could make them monotheists; they were still condemned as “polytheists”. This was because although it is important that Allah (SWT) is to be accepted as the Creator, Sustainer etc it is, however, not enough!
To become believers of one True God it is important that God’s attributes be not violated, i.e., we should not assign the attributes of God to any of His creatures or vice-versa. This is extremely important to maintain Gods oneness of attributes. However, unfortunately, a lot of communities have stumbled upon this violation of God’s attributes including, sadly, Christianity.
Earlier we have documented how Christianity breached God’s attributes thereby violating monotheism itself. It was with regards to God’s humanization in the form of Jesus (peace be upon him). In this paper we would further continue beyond it.
Christians provide a number of explanations in defense of their incarnation theory. One of the leading amongst them is the Pauline passage that Jesus (peace be upon him) gave up his divine attributes to enter into humanity (c.f. Philippians 2: 6-8). Although humanization of God is open idolatry yet we are not concerned about it in this paper. We want to look beyond it into areas which are far grotesque than mere humanization!
It is interesting to note that John happens to be the only author amongst the gospel writers who has entitled Jesus (peace be upon him) as the “Lamb” (c.f. gospel of John 1: 29, 36); however, this usage of the title is figurative. Jesus (peace be upon him) is symbolized as the sacrificial animal or the “Lamb” to be slaughtered in commemoration of the Passover ritual of the Old Testament.
However, there is one more book in the New Testament attributed to “John” – the book of Revelation – which edifies that the title “Lamb” was not only figuratively used in the New Testament; it has plain literal meanings as well. In his fanciful “visions”, John goes overboard to portray Jesus (peace be upon him) as nothing less than a pagan mythical beast:
“Then I saw a Lamb standing in the centre of the throne, surrounded by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb appeared to have been killed.It had SEVEN HORNS AND SEVEN EYES, which are the seven spirits of God that have been sent throughout the whole earth. The Lamb went and took the scroll from the right hand of the one who sits on the throne. As he did so, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each had a harp and gold bowls filled with incense, which are the prayers of God’s people. They sang a new song:
“You are worthy to take the scroll and to break open its seals. For you were killed, and by your sacrificial death you bought for God people from every tribe, language, nation and race. You have made them a kingdom of priests to serve our God, and they shall rule on earth.” Again I looked, and I heard angels, thousands and millions of them! They stood round the throne, the four living creatures, and the elders, and sang in a loud voice:…The four living creatures answered, “Amen!” And the elders fell down and worshipped. ” (Revelation 5: 6-14)
Thus, in the book of Revelation, Jesus (peace be upon him) – the assumed “God” – is morphed from a human being to a weird “seven horned, seven eyed” beast. More interestingly, this mythical creature not just stands on the magnificent Throne of God but also receives “worship” by some of the best Christians!
Christians typically understood the verse to signify Christ’s (peace be upon him) perfect power and wisdom – omnipotence and omniscience. It is because horn and eye represent power and knowledge and seven of each adds to it their respective perfections:
Seven horns – As horn is the emblem of power, and seven the number of perfection, the seven horns may denote the all-prevailing and infinite might of Jesus Christ. He can support all his friends; he can destroy all his enemies; and he can save to the uttermost all that come unto God through him.
Seven eyes – To denote his infinite knowledge and wisdom: but as these seven eyes are said to be the seven Spirits of God, they seem to denote rather his providence, in which he often employs the ministry of angels; therefore, these are said to be sent forth into all the earth. See on Rev_1:4 (note). (Revelation 5:6, Adam Clarke’s Commentary on the Bible)
Christians might interpret seven horns and seven eyes to represent “God’s” divine power and knowledge; however, to any non-Christian monotheist these can only represent bestial (beast-like) qualities unjustly and blasphemously imputed upon God.
Furthermore, even if it be accepted for the sake of argument that horns and eyes represent some divine attribute, yet a number of other body parts of a “Lamb” cannot possibly represent any “divine” attribute of God!
It is unconceivable in any sensible monotheistic purview that God would transfigure into a mythical “Lamb” and grow horns – in fact seven of them – and seven eyes and stand on the Throne of God with his neck slit and blood oozing out. Given this grotesque portrayal of New Testament “God”, how feasible is it that this was the same “God” which was worshipped by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and others (peace be upon them all)?
New Testament’s portrayal of God as animals has not yet ended. Since the gospels, very famously, has portrayed the third person of the Christian godhead – the Holy Ghost – as a “dove”:
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. (Luke 3:22, King James Version)
On the foregoing, qualified Bible expositor J.P. Lange makes some very intriguing remarks:
In a bodily shape, like a dove.—The mention of the dove by all the four Evangelists, plainly shows, that the descent of the Spirit was usually compared, by the Baptist who saw it, and afterwards by those who related it, to the descent of a dove. It is, however, by no means necessary to infer, from the σωματικὸν εἶδος of Luke, the actualform of a dove. Luke does not say, σωματικῷ εἴδει περιστερᾶς, but ὡς περιστεράν. By supposing a ray of light to have descended from the opened heaven, gently, swiftly, and evenly, like the downward flight of a dove, and to have shone around the head of the praying Saviour for some space of time, we escape MANY DIFFICULTIES, and obtain a representation BEAUTIFUL in itself, and becoming the divine majesty. It is by no means proved, that the dove was, in the days of Jesus, regarded by the Jews as an emblem of the Holy Spirit. The very shy nature of the dove renders it difficult to conceive its descending from heaven, and abiding on a newly baptized person, even in a vision. And if ancient Christian art, exchanging the figure for the fact, constantly introduced a visible dove into every representation of the baptism, it is only probable that this UNAESTHETIC treatment was the result of an EXEGETICAL ERROR. Our view also will satisfactorily explain why Justin Martyr (Dial. cum Tryph. c. 88), as well as the Gospel of the Hebrews (Epiphanius, Hœres. xxx. 13), mentions a vivid ray of light as suddenly surrounding the banks of Jordan. By a very natural symbolism, light was regarded by the Jews as an emblem of the Divinity; and we can see no reason why the descent of a ray of light should not also have been compared to the descent of a dove. (Luke 3:22, Lange Commentary by J. P. Lange)
Notice that commentator Lange is not willing to admit, unlike other Bible commentators like Robertson (c.f. Robertson’s Word Picture) [1.], that the “divine God” took the form of a “dove”. For Lange, it is not “necessary” that whatever descended had “the actual form of a dove”! In fact Lange provides his reasons why “dove” should not represent Holy Spirit. For this reason he is even willing to deem traditional and historical church practice as an “exegetical error”. And we must understand Lange’s tacit uneasiness to accept the more obvious meaning of the statements!
In fact, it is for obvious idolatrous issues that Lange is more willing to accept “descent of ray of light” in place of a “dove”! Lange has very expressly indicated that he has no problems in accepting the descent of a “ray of light” (not a “dove”) upon Jesus (peace be upon him) since “light was regarded by the Jews as an emblem of the Divinity”; unlike this, “It is by no means proved, that the dove was, in the days of Jesus, regarded by the Jews as an emblem of the Holy Spirit.” And therefore, rather than accepting the obvious imports of Luke’s statement which is corroborated by all other gospels (c.f. Matthew 3:16, Mark 1:10, John 1:32), Lange chooses to go by the views of mere church father Justin Martyr and a book – Gospel of Hebrews – which he himself rejects as apocryphal! [This creates another problem that the traditional Christian understand of Holy Ghost’s transformation into a dove is not supported by one of the earliest “apostolic” father!]
Lange rather candidly admits why he chose Justin Martyr and the Gospel of Hebrews to the views of the “inspired” author(s) Luke. It was because, “By supposing a ray of light to have descended from the opened heaven, gently, swiftly, and evenly, like the downward flight of a dove, and to have shone around the head of the praying Saviour for some space of time, we escape many difficulties, and obtain a representation beautiful in itself, and becoming the divine majesty.”
It must be enquired as to why Lange faced “difficulties” when Holy Ghost – the “God” – was represented as a “dove”? Why this representation of “God” as “dove” was not “beautiful” enough for Lange but an “unaesthetic treatment”? The answer is quite obvious. No claimant of monotheism can easily accept his/her God be represented as a “dove” without finding other “explanations” out of it! And so Lange “explained”, strangely enough, that the descent of the ray of light is represented by the descent of a dove! Lange is very strangely contended enough to relate the hovering of a dove to the straight downward descent of a ray of light; and we must understand this phenomenon!
There can be one more reason why Lange finds it unpalatable to represent Holy Ghost as “dove”. It was traditionally of Satan – the first time ever, even before God – to turn into animals for achieving objectives:
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: (Genesis 3:1-4, King James Version)
Just like the Holy Ghost was not initially a “dove” in the same way biblical Satan was not really a “serpent”; it was a “Dragon”. The book of Revelation illustrates us on it:
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Revelation 12:9)
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, (Revelation 20:2)
And subsequently, using animal transformations as apparatus, which is a satanicmodus operandi, could have troubled Lange to impute the same on his “God”!
Allah (SWT) has declared the following warning about the sin of polytheism (Arabic. Shirk – associating partners with God) very precisely in the Qur’an:
Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed. (Qur’an 4:48)
If associating partners with Allah (SWT) is unpardonable sin then how saved are the Christians who ascribe bestial attributes to God. It comes extremely unpleasant and grotesque to accept that the “God” of “monotheists” would stand on the Throne with the appearance of a “Lamb” with seven horns protruding his head and an equal number of eyes, and a bleeding neck for people to prostrate “worship” it! How would a “jealous” God (c.f. Exodus 34:14) react when he comes to know that He was compared to a mere “Lamb”, albeit, seven-horned and seven-eyed and a “dove”!
Yet if Christians are still monotheists by believing in multiple animal-like “Gods” then we would have to justify why pagans are pagans for their belief. A lot of pagan cults have mythical beasts as their gods and this should not, at least, differentiate them from those who call themselves “Christians”!
That is why we adjure our Christian brethren to consider this paper beyond mere apologetics. We request you earnestly to have a talk with yourselves as to how correct is the belief wherein one of the gods of the Trinitarian godhead is said to look like a lamb with seven horns and seven eyes and a bleeding neck and otherone resembles a dove! If you are true to yourself then you would agree that there are gross and colossal issues herein with the Trinitarian brand of “monotheism” and that such a description of God can only come out as figments of mere human imagination with nothing divine “inspiration” behind it. Will it then be not be much safer to follow the following Qur’anic injunctions?
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. (Qur’an 112:4)
(He is) the Creator of the heavens and the earth: He has made for you pairs from among yourselves, and pairs among cattle: by this means does He multiply you: there is nothing whatever like unto Him, and He is the One that hears and sees (all things). (Qur’an 42:11)
[1.] In a bodily form (sōmatikōi eidei). Alone in Luke who has also “as a dove” (hōs peristeran) like Matthew and Mark. This probably means that the Baptist saw the vision that looked like a dove. Nothing is gained by denying the fact or possibility of the vision that looked like a dove. God manifests his power as he will. The symbolism of the dove for the Holy Spirit is intelligible. (Luke 3:22, Robertson’s Word Picture)
- All Qur’anic texts taken from Yusuf Ali Translation.
- Unless otherwise mentioned, all biblical texts taken from Good News Edition.
- We apologize if this paper has offended any sincere Christian believer. It was never our intention to hurt any feelings or jeer any belief. We respect your choices. Nevertheless, we quoted passages which are already registered in the Bible and made our arguments on it.
Seriously, you need to expand your “Christian interpreters” beyond what you find on google (e.g. John Gill and Adam Clarke, among others).
Revelation is a highly symbolized work, which has generated a host of interpretations. One must be thoroughly edicated in Greco-roman history, the geographical, political and cultural setting of the “seven churches” in order to fully grasp its full significance.
Now, just for consistency, can you please tell me if you believe that Allah has hands? Q 23:88
Did he appear as a buringin bush? Q28:30-31?
Would you be happy for me to conclude that Muslims worship a hand which looks like a fire?
Why, therefore, do you disallow symbolism within the pages of the Bible?
paulus, if jesus took a crap in a palestinian toilet and u viewed what he did, would u bow b4 a crapping god? would u bow b4 are god driven up a cross and bleeding to death? yes, u would, because u believe that a bodiless diety imbue himself IN his OWN CREATED meat/flesh. so cut the symbolism bs and admit that u see nothing wrong with a diety exercing his powers through ANIMAL flesh/bones.
vishnus 10 hands, according to hinduism have meaning . even the idol worshipper doesn’t really think his god is an idol. all the idol worshipper believers is that his god is hanging around the idol.
out of curiosity did a diety literally create a penis for himself and then wear it like one wears a costume or is it all symbolism? did god, the omni everything being make a penis /vagina for himself?
since u believe that your god became flesh then why can’t he take on animal flesh and do a work out through horns and 9 eyes or whatever?
“can you please tell me if you believe that Allah has hands? Q 23:88
Did he appear as a buringin bush? Q28:30-31?”
sufis and salafis have been debating the hand issue for ages, but wt.. has this got to do with a diety taking on female/male reproductive parts and taking on 100 % flesh which could crap and smell? where is the connection?
in the next ayah where did it say that God appeared as 100 % percent fire or appeared as a burning bush?
REMEMBER 100 % flesh
your god made 100 % meat forhimself, then WATCHED his lesser part get man handled. he had to apply his DIVINE wrath on his lesser PART /flesh/meat because roman wrath IS NOT divine wrath
so WHAT CALLED moses and where does it say burning bush CALLED him?
another thing paulus. jesus, your crucified /murdered god in flesh , iN THE gREEK , alledged to have raised people back to life. WHAT greek words were the pagan greeks using for thier holy men, when their holy men RAISED people back from the dead?
greek word please.
“where is the connection?”
Besides your comments being generally crass and unhelpful, to answer your question, the connection is in that both respective Holy Books uses anthropomorphic language at times. For the Christian, the book of Revelation is a highly symbolised work, steeped in deep rhetorical tools surrounding intense imagery. Similarly, although not identically, the Quran too uses certain type imagery to display different aspects of Allah’s reign. Ergo, I simply ask that the author of this article allow for this diversity. Revelation is highly apocalyptic, drawing on Old Testmament themes found in the book of Daniel. In fact, apocalyptic literature was very common in first century literature, so an essentail element of understanding the book is to know that background. I highly doubt the author ahs such knowledge, since very few do, but I am happy to be corrected and shown wrong on that point.
In John 11 we find the account of Jesus rising Lazarus back to life. The Greek used in verse 23 is ‘anestesetai’, meaning ‘will rise again’. Is this what you mean? Your question wasn’t exactly clear.
Man, the fact is that you are completely ignorant about the whole issue.
I belief what you are trying to say is that; Christians are not on the right path.
Now let’s try to address this issue with a simple sense.
Two *people claimed to come from a very holy God. One Jesus, while the other Muhammad.
Jesus came. He preached Salvation, Love, Peace and never involved himself in harming others. Even when he was about to be arrested, his disciple cut off a soldier ear in his defence but he cautioned the disciple and heal the soldier ear.
After all tortured and suffering he endured, he still said, “Father forgive them for they know not what the are doing” before surrendering himself unto death before he rose up the third day.
The second one; Mohammed, is a lover of war. He fought in at least 28 wars where he killed, destroy properties, turn children to orphan, wives to widows and also direct more than 50 wars where he told his followers to go and destroy. Not to mention his exploit with women.
Now, let us both sit down and try to analyze this two. Who do you think can take us to the holy father? A place where no murderer nor an adulterer can enter.
I know you are just being fooled by some people but if you can look deeply, definitely you will see that Jesus loves you and he don’t want you to perish.
Accept him today and be quite sure that eternity is yours.
You are bless
” Even when he was about to be arrested, his disciple cut off a soldier ear in his defence but he cautioned the disciple and heal the soldier ear.
After all tortured and suffering he endured, he still said, “Father forgive them for they know not what the are doing” before surrendering himself unto death before he rose up the third day.”
so lets try to understand this shit. god in the meat requests god in the spirit to forgive those who beat the shit out of gods flesh and then hung him on a cross? so is it like i PREPLANNING the destruction of my OWN hand and then requesting (my hand making the REQUEST) TO a bigger part of me to forgive the people whom my bigger part and my hand preplanned to beat my hand?
so jesus along with the father god preplans his suicide . the father leashed out divine wrath but the romans leashed out punishment of jcs meat/flesh. then jc requests god to forgive ? yet matthew and mark has jesus say, ” elai, elai, why have u forsaken me” and then the psalms say that the person refers to his persecutors as dogs and lions . no forgiveness found there. matthew has the jews claim, “his blood be upon us and our…” but if they were saying this in IGNORANCE , then wasn’t the words of forgiveness MORE HEAVY than words said in IGNORANCE ?if yes, then why DID MARK, mat and john leave them out? why do they GIVE THE impression that the jews and romans are completely AWARE of what they are doing? they ,the other writers, LEAVE NO ROOM for , “father forgive them”
yet DOES the text say that the father forgave those who beat the hell out of jesus?
dear god, i am making a request to you as a god for allowing dogs and pigs and lions to beat the crap out of me and hang my meat which u and i invented on a cross? please fogive them for beating the crap out of me then when i reunite with u in the spirit ,we will BEAT THE crap out of them , their flesh and thier soul in the fires of hell. lets not forget that BEFORE jesus came on the seen MILLIONS OF people have requested for forgiveness of thier ENEMIES.
Do you accept that the Gospel is one of God’s teaching? Have you ever wonder why in all the teaching in the gospel are parables and something which the people of the past time think and analyze every parables, and not to analyze it literally coz if you do it will only result to a wrong ideas,haven’t you think of this as you set such study on this and form a very shallow argument, is it a sinful to portray God as an animal you said without thinking deeply what it is. It isaid that God is the all knower all and see everything… Remember that when Jesus teach on His time He encourage His desciples to think and understand all His parables… being compared to a lamb which you describe as an animal is not what it means in the description instead as a sacrifice to Him. By this haven’t you notice that you already committed sin by putting God in an animal without thinking deeply the real aspect of the context of the bible.